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economy. some people are saying don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done. an 11th hour deal. john, as you read the politics at play, what do you see? >> i see both sides digging in. you've just played the president saying i want that rate hike. the republicans are saying mr. president, we'll give you the revenues, but not through a rate hike, but the president believes he won the election and he's upped the ante. says he wants twice as much in tax revenues than a year and a half ago, so the president believes he has the higher ground. i think maybe the democrats have a deeper trench, if you will. they have public on their side. but if you talk to people in washington, there's still this sense that at a last minute, reason will prevail, but there's not a lot of optimism. you know this and my colleagues know this, more and more people are talking about the threat. not only if you don't deal with this, you'll send the united states back in a recessi
economy. some people are saying don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done. an 11th hour deal. john, as you read the politics at play, what do you see? >> i see both sides digging in. you've just played the president saying i want that rate hike. the republicans are saying mr. president, we'll give you the revenues, but not through a rate hike, but the president believes he won the election and he's upped the ante. says he wants twice as much...
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"we have to be competitive in the entire global economy. let's deregulate wall street so we can compete internationally." i don't believe that for a second. look, the issue is we live in a country where millions of people really have not had the opportunity to learn about the dynamics of what goes on in american society. major, major issues literally, get very, very little discussion. so the bottom line for the fcc has got to be, "how do we create a situation in which the american people are hearing a diverse range of ideas so that our public world has the kind of debate that it needs?" >> but what about the argument that people make that the internet, the thriving of the internet, let a billion opinions bloom diminishes the tyranny of monopoly? >> let me respond to that in two ways. "a," the internet is enormously important. it is growing. but the bottom line is that most people today still get their information from television and from radio. >> 74%, i believe -- >> there you go. so maybe -- second of all, when you go to the internet, wha
"we have to be competitive in the entire global economy. let's deregulate wall street so we can compete internationally." i don't believe that for a second. look, the issue is we live in a country where millions of people really have not had the opportunity to learn about the dynamics of what goes on in american society. major, major issues literally, get very, very little discussion. so the bottom line for the fcc has got to be, "how do we create a situation in which the...
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democrats and do what's best for the country or take a tea party type hardline stance that will doom the economy also big drought super storm systems and above average temperatures are just some of the devastating effects of climate change but there are still those who say this is all normal climate change is still just one big made up myth or the deniers up to now and new reports out suggest the chemicals from halliburton is highly controversial fracking process are killing livestock nationwide but the government stop this dangerous practice before we all die from fracking related food poisoning. president obama just won reelection to the white house with a margin of about fifty one percent of the popular vote about the same number he won by in two thousand and eight the last president to win both election and reelection by fifty one percent or greater was dwight d. eisenhower in the elections in one thousand nine hundred two in one hundred fifty six so apparently both obama and eisenhower were doing something right that a clear majority the american people liked but what could that be we're al
democrats and do what's best for the country or take a tea party type hardline stance that will doom the economy also big drought super storm systems and above average temperatures are just some of the devastating effects of climate change but there are still those who say this is all normal climate change is still just one big made up myth or the deniers up to now and new reports out suggest the chemicals from halliburton is highly controversial fracking process are killing livestock...
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how does the economy get out of this slump? what is our economy doing well right now? what are we not doing as well as a country to deal with our economy? >> good question. the economy now is actually looking quite resilient. if you look at what's happening in energy, enormous boom. in agriculture, even with the drought, you're seeing incredible levels of income to farmers, which is really welcome. in manufacturing, one of the strongest periods of manufacturing revival that we've seen in almost a generation. not just in autos, and not just in high tech, but comprehensibly across that. we are showing american companies very competitive and resilient, and companies are bringing back production from china and mexico because this is looking like a much stronger country in which to invest and build. those are very encouraging signs for the american economy. and people running america's businesses would say they are in the strongest position they have been in maybe a decade in terms of the ability they have to expand and grow. and if we are able to lift this threat, big tax
how does the economy get out of this slump? what is our economy doing well right now? what are we not doing as well as a country to deal with our economy? >> good question. the economy now is actually looking quite resilient. if you look at what's happening in energy, enormous boom. in agriculture, even with the drought, you're seeing incredible levels of income to farmers, which is really welcome. in manufacturing, one of the strongest periods of manufacturing revival that we've seen in...
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economies richard cost money to run. they are not free and they do not finance themselves organically. there is misplaced popularity in the libertarian myth that governments don't need to involve themselves in most economic matters and that markets will handle whatever needs to be handled. we need taxes. and we need safety and services and infrastructure in return. in some cases, it is simply more economical for governments to provide services because of scale. health care might be one example. the building and maintenance of smart grids and roads. broad band infrastructure. so think of taxes not as needing to be low but of the return from those taxes of needing to be high. now traditionally, richard, that worked in europe. now it doesn't. they got the math badly wrong. so what once provided a high return is now an utter failure which makes america a tax bargain. but that is going to change, too, richard. so the solution is to move to canada where taxes are low, government offerings are high. you, sir, can come and live
economies richard cost money to run. they are not free and they do not finance themselves organically. there is misplaced popularity in the libertarian myth that governments don't need to involve themselves in most economic matters and that markets will handle whatever needs to be handled. we need taxes. and we need safety and services and infrastructure in return. in some cases, it is simply more economical for governments to provide services because of scale. health care might be one example....
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economy are significant. they come from europe and asia, old infrastructure in the united states, massive debt. americans have a right to expect leaders to tackle large problem. as one of the leading authorities on financial crises, what do we do? >> i think this point that it's not just what happens this month how are we going to move forward, grow this economy because this problem of debt comes from our aging population. you talk about the tax hike we have. it's not enough to close the gap. the idea that the middle class will get away from this without paying most of it. without entitlements being cut, that's nuts. eventually that will happen. they won't admit it now. we are just beginning. this is a skirmish in a longer war. >> diane, one of the arguments of those that say the fiscal cliff discussion is over blown is deployed at the resilience of the stock market. the s&p is up 12% for the year. that's an okay year. companies have a lot of cash they are holding onto. is too much made of the negative effect
economy are significant. they come from europe and asia, old infrastructure in the united states, massive debt. americans have a right to expect leaders to tackle large problem. as one of the leading authorities on financial crises, what do we do? >> i think this point that it's not just what happens this month how are we going to move forward, grow this economy because this problem of debt comes from our aging population. you talk about the tax hike we have. it's not enough to close the...
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he's head of the parade and a a badly weakened economy is going to hurt him more than anything. the republicans need to figure out their hand is stronger than they think, and they need to remember they are the ones that control spending and under no circumstances should they ever give obama a blank check or give up their constitutional authority. now four, republicans, and in particular, john boehner, a party that gets trapped, you always suffer and they suffer in particular if they lose the battle over the narrative. that's what's happening to republicans since all the focus is on tacks tacks and not spend. republicans need to take steps like passing real legislation that allows them to talk about their agenda, not what obama needs to talk about, and they have to figure out creative ways to make their case to the american people. it's time that republicans have the courage of their convictions. it is simply immoral to continue to steal from future generations with out of control deficits and now record debt. now going over this cliff to prevent the country from going bankrupt w
he's head of the parade and a a badly weakened economy is going to hurt him more than anything. the republicans need to figure out their hand is stronger than they think, and they need to remember they are the ones that control spending and under no circumstances should they ever give obama a blank check or give up their constitutional authority. now four, republicans, and in particular, john boehner, a party that gets trapped, you always suffer and they suffer in particular if they lose the...
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this impacts the economy and uncertainty out there that is lingering is creating havoc with our economy and our states and in my particular budget, not only don't we have growth money which we're anticipating in utah which is having a pretty healthy economy, we could take as much as a $500 million loss in revenue strings because of not getting it resolved. we're going to encourage people to come together and get it done. we're also saying that states are willing to do our part. we understand this will be a shared sacrifice as you have to look at spending cuts. states are willing to do more with less. we're asking for more flexibility. it's a common theme that we've talked about with the president, with congress. give us more flexibility. take away some of the strings and we can do more with less, help you balance your budget. >> governor walker what exactly did you say to our president and did you talk about taxes? >> well, in our case, as jack and mary both mentioned, we're not here as individual governors. we're here as part of the national governors so tp it wasn't to discuss a speci
this impacts the economy and uncertainty out there that is lingering is creating havoc with our economy and our states and in my particular budget, not only don't we have growth money which we're anticipating in utah which is having a pretty healthy economy, we could take as much as a $500 million loss in revenue strings because of not getting it resolved. we're going to encourage people to come together and get it done. we're also saying that states are willing to do our part. we understand...
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from 19.5% of the overall economy to 20.6%. by bump. ing along with 18%, we have built the national debt that dominates the political discussion and it's going to get worse if we stay there. the future debt we're talking and worrying about is driven by two things. health care and old people. the coming years are going to have more of both. today the elderly make up 13% of the population. by 2050, they are expected to be 20%. that means you'll need to spend a lot more on social security and medicare. and we hope will keep happening and that will push the cost higher. the future turns out to be expensive. that's simply the reality of it. and opposing tax increases doesn't change that reality. there's nothing in grover norquist's pledge that stops the ageing process. so there's no way the tax receipts of the 1960s will support the demographics of america in the 2030s. anyone who says otherwise is not taking the reality seriously. joining us is a man who always takes reality seriously. chris hayes. so one thing i always think is true in our
from 19.5% of the overall economy to 20.6%. by bump. ing along with 18%, we have built the national debt that dominates the political discussion and it's going to get worse if we stay there. the future debt we're talking and worrying about is driven by two things. health care and old people. the coming years are going to have more of both. today the elderly make up 13% of the population. by 2050, they are expected to be 20%. that means you'll need to spend a lot more on social security and...
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look we hope and pray this economy is getting better, the job situation is getting better, there are millions of people on food stamps that were solidly middle class in the past and it's looking better and i hope and pray that congress reaches bipartisan compromise. don't send us over the fiscal cliff. do the right thing. be statesmen. reach a compromise. >> politico put some meal suggestions. this gives a perspective. for this food stamp budget you can get one sandwich two two slices of store brand bread. two slices of cheese. that's $1.24. another option is seven ounz frozen fried fish plank. what's your reaction was when you did this from your constituents and what purpose does it serve for somebody like you or cory booker to do this? >> i got a lot of kudos for doing it. i admire mayor booker for taking on this challenge. don't give us too many can you dose. we only did it for a week. there are a lot of false stereotypes about people living in food stamps. that's not fair. that's not my experience. these are hard-working people. they don't want to be on food stamps. they want to
look we hope and pray this economy is getting better, the job situation is getting better, there are millions of people on food stamps that were solidly middle class in the past and it's looking better and i hope and pray that congress reaches bipartisan compromise. don't send us over the fiscal cliff. do the right thing. be statesmen. reach a compromise. >> politico put some meal suggestions. this gives a perspective. for this food stamp budget you can get one sandwich two two slices of...
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what that does, it lifts the cloud of default over the economy. the president has increased the debt limit. congress has a chance to express approval of that. it's a very smart way by the senator with impeccable credentials to lift this threat. >> you said that he never intended it to be permanent? >> but, again, it was a good idea then, it's a good idea going forward. it came from him. it wasn't our idea. that makes a lot of sense. what you said that wasn't quite right, what we laid out for them was, a detailed set of reforms in health programs, government programs over ten years, which are going to be tough, but we think they make sense. they don't like all those changes, they might want to go beyond that. but they have to tell us what those things are. you're right on the revenue side. we're proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that would be a good thing to do as a sensible economic policy, and we want to combine that with tax reforms that will limit deductions. there's no surprise in this. we have been proposing this for a ver
what that does, it lifts the cloud of default over the economy. the president has increased the debt limit. congress has a chance to express approval of that. it's a very smart way by the senator with impeccable credentials to lift this threat. >> you said that he never intended it to be permanent? >> but, again, it was a good idea then, it's a good idea going forward. it came from him. it wasn't our idea. that makes a lot of sense. what you said that wasn't quite right, what we...
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but ultimately the president of the economy goes may pay the price as he did last august. the problem i have is with what doug said the republicans are in such a disarray. make a case other than we don't want to attack rich people and they lost that in the election and have not been able to make the case that they should have made in the election this year which is on spending and the debt limit. >> go ahead. >> this is bad for the g.o.p. no matter what. and i hate to say this. but, you know, we are either not going appeal to our very conservative base or we're going to tick off people that think that we're not being hard enough. so, this is going to end up. this is going to play badly for the g.o.p. either way. obama set this up. kind of like a dog and pony show to where it's almost like this is just aimed at the republican party. >> judge jeanine: doug, is this just about spending? is it about the taxes? is it about the debt ceiling? make no mistake. do we all agree that, you know, the elimination of congressional approval and the elimination of the debt ceiling, i mean,
but ultimately the president of the economy goes may pay the price as he did last august. the problem i have is with what doug said the republicans are in such a disarray. make a case other than we don't want to attack rich people and they lost that in the election and have not been able to make the case that they should have made in the election this year which is on spending and the debt limit. >> go ahead. >> this is bad for the g.o.p. no matter what. and i hate to say this. but,...
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that way congress couldn't blow up the world economy for no good reason. it's taking the sharp knife covered in explosives away from a kid who has a lot of temper tantrums. it seems like a good thing to do. the white house calls it the mcconnell plan because it's based on an idea that mitch mcconnell proposed become in july 2011. but even though it is mitch mcconnell's idea, even though he came up with it, mitch mcconnell is not for it. mitch mcconnell at this point does not support the mcconnell plan at all. he didn't think democrats did either. and yesterday he wanted to call their bluff. now that is when c-span2 suddenly became amazing television. yesterday afternoon mitch mcconnell asked the senate to move to an immediate vote on the mcconnell plan. vote on it now. he figured harry reid would back down. prove that even democrats don't like this idea. but reid did not back down. he doubled down. he said, yeah, let's vote on the plan. but let's move to an immediate up or down vote. no filibuster, no 60-vote requirement, let's see if it gets 51. if so, it
that way congress couldn't blow up the world economy for no good reason. it's taking the sharp knife covered in explosives away from a kid who has a lot of temper tantrums. it seems like a good thing to do. the white house calls it the mcconnell plan because it's based on an idea that mitch mcconnell proposed become in july 2011. but even though it is mitch mcconnell's idea, even though he came up with it, mitch mcconnell is not for it. mitch mcconnell at this point does not support the...
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you are in the ability to give us a deal, any deal is crushing our economy. allow me to explain. since i read @jimcramer on tw twitter people say i'm biased. i believe that the compromise that all the common sense people are looking for, some combination of spending cuts, higher taxes and pro-growth initiatives doesn't come into play anymore in washington. too many pledges, too much ideology. i l am part of the 2% that's going to have to pay more. i have the highest effective tax rate possible, 48% for a variety of reasons. but i am willing to pay more because i used to pay more at one time and i'm grateful for what this country has done for me. i know that those of us are lucky enough to have done well in this country have had a really good run and it's time to show gratefulness, even if we think the government may be profligate with our money. enough already! i want others to do well too. so don't get the idea -- i'm not against the next guy doing better. the idea is that the small business person that everyone claims to be looking out for and the middle class people everyone p
you are in the ability to give us a deal, any deal is crushing our economy. allow me to explain. since i read @jimcramer on tw twitter people say i'm biased. i believe that the compromise that all the common sense people are looking for, some combination of spending cuts, higher taxes and pro-growth initiatives doesn't come into play anymore in washington. too many pledges, too much ideology. i l am part of the 2% that's going to have to pay more. i have the highest effective tax rate possible,...
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it could transcend any short-term issues with the economy. but last year, we had a warm winter and sales of uggs were crushed by the weather. deckers were forced to raise prices drastically because of sheepskin. higher prices, lower sales. quarter after quarter things got worse. when deckers reported latest results on october 25th, the trends were horrid. the stock pole-axed. there was one bright spot. management indicated that sheepskin prices have been falling, which should mean the horrific declines in deckers' gross margins, what they make after the cost of sales, are at an end with the possibility of margin expansion as we head into the new year. now, ever since the stock got pummeled after the latest quarter, deckers has been coming back with a vengeance, but it's not because of better gross margins. what's the real reason for this rally? deckers has reached a point where the expectations got so low and the stock became so hated, there was nowhere left for it to go but up. half the float has been sold short. that's insane, insanely high
it could transcend any short-term issues with the economy. but last year, we had a warm winter and sales of uggs were crushed by the weather. deckers were forced to raise prices drastically because of sheepskin. higher prices, lower sales. quarter after quarter things got worse. when deckers reported latest results on october 25th, the trends were horrid. the stock pole-axed. there was one bright spot. management indicated that sheepskin prices have been falling, which should mean the horrific...
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they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. that's what w. did and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on
they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. that's what w. did and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on
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as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall over a cliff over, isn't it? who cares if the super rich pay a little bit more tax? they don't care. it's not going to affect their ability to invest. >> well, piers, you've just outlined the president's narrative and robert gave you the president's sense of entitlement and mandate that he thinks he has. but let's go back four years when the president was polling not at 52% but at 70% after just being elected, beating a war hero, and he thought he could do anything and he -- the country would go a
as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow...
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will we build an economy that pays workers enough to support a family or will we use the government to subsidize people's wages through food stamps and other support. today, we're not doing either one. in michigan, i signed a bill to raise the minimum wage to $7.40 an hour. that was six years ago. it needs to be raised again. the federal minimum wage is lower than that. it is now just $7.25 an hour. try, just try imagine earning $7.25 an hour and paying a mortgage or rent try living on $7.25 an hour and buying food, much less acquiring transportation in some way. forget clothing. that's a total luxury. this is a moral issue. but it is also an economic issue that's going to determine the vitality of our nation's recovery from recession. joining me now are two champions of the living wage fight. jonathan westin, director of fast food forward an organization that helped organize the strikes in new york. and linda archer is a current mcdonald's employee who's joined in the fight for better wages. they're joining us from new york. great to have you both inside "the war room" to share your s
will we build an economy that pays workers enough to support a family or will we use the government to subsidize people's wages through food stamps and other support. today, we're not doing either one. in michigan, i signed a bill to raise the minimum wage to $7.40 an hour. that was six years ago. it needs to be raised again. the federal minimum wage is lower than that. it is now just $7.25 an hour. try, just try imagine earning $7.25 an hour and paying a mortgage or rent try living on $7.25 an...
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i for one, if you didn't care about the economy and you didn't care about the american people, you bet your life you can get $800 billion or trillion dollars out of raising -- eliminating deductions and tax credits. >> but conman, he kncongressman you muster all those deductions together they only amount to about $400 billion. >> i think we could do that. i think we can do it. first of all, you have to make certain that local and state tax deductions are not there. then you take away all the charitable deductions that we have. then you take away all of the mortgage deductions for the rich and the middle income, all that you have there. and then you start looking at the deductions that you have for children, for earned income tax credits, for the poor people that are there. if you really look at everything that so many americans have taken for granted and even if you don't reach the $800 billion, at least you will find out what is this man talking about. just don't say you can't do it, it's not arithmetic. give them a piece of chalk, go to the blackboard, and show us, mr. speaker, what
i for one, if you didn't care about the economy and you didn't care about the american people, you bet your life you can get $800 billion or trillion dollars out of raising -- eliminating deductions and tax credits. >> but conman, he kncongressman you muster all those deductions together they only amount to about $400 billion. >> i think we could do that. i think we can do it. first of all, you have to make certain that local and state tax deductions are not there. then you take...
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i think the economy is a little bit bigger. people are not talking about that. we have an absurd situation to get 10,000 visas a year from mexico. i'm from southern california, you can fit those 10,000 visas in about half of long beach where i'm from. it doesn't begin to make sense. people aren't talking about that. i don't think obama is pressured to deal with this because he got four more percentage points. >> this is the artificial crisis. the crisis of insufficiency, it's created by our actual policy. with a stroke of the pen, we can change it. with legislation like all issues that are difficult, they're difficult for a reason. it's tough to get their politically but the easiest way to go about it. let's get the numbers of visas way up there so it reflects at least some bit of reality and stop criminalizing human existence. >> business push on this as well. >> there's a business push. frankly, there's going to be a fight. even though business is on the same side as immigrant rights movement, there will be a fight between business and those groups. because bu
i think the economy is a little bit bigger. people are not talking about that. we have an absurd situation to get 10,000 visas a year from mexico. i'm from southern california, you can fit those 10,000 visas in about half of long beach where i'm from. it doesn't begin to make sense. people aren't talking about that. i don't think obama is pressured to deal with this because he got four more percentage points. >> this is the artificial crisis. the crisis of insufficiency, it's created by...
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we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> welcome back to "hardball." today president obama took his fiscal pitch outside the beltway visiting a middle class family in virginia suburbs. the president's message is resonating with people across america. a new quinnipiac poll proves it. 53% trust president obama and the dgets more to handle the fiscal cliff negotiations. only 36% trust the "r"s in congress. joining me is nbc chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," anything else you control around here? >> that's enough. >> and "the washington post's" chris cillizza. i think you've been reupped. year all over the place. you're the greatest. the absolute best there is in this -- >> let's be careful talking about the president outside the beltway. >> this is why i want you and chris on. what is the president hoping to get done? what's his time frame? does he believe in the cliff or does he think it's a bungee jump? >> no, he truly believes in the cliff. he has been getting -- and
we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> welcome back to "hardball." today president obama took his fiscal pitch outside the beltway visiting a middle class family in virginia suburbs. the president's message is resonating with people across america. a new quinnipiac poll proves it. 53% trust president obama and the dgets more to handle the fiscal cliff negotiations. only 36% trust the "r"s in...
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that kproit duce a larger economy in the long run. when we couple that with the fact both sides feel they have a mandate on taxes is there a benefit to going over the cliff and figuring out from the bottom? >> from the democratic point of view this is really simple. if you look at the economics and you look at the politics of this, there's one simple inescapable fact which is for millionaires and billionaires taxes will go up. the president ran on this. the country is with him on this. look at the economics it the only way to address the problem is to cut taxes on millionaires or billionaires. the other option for our republican friends, if they want to make the decision and tell the country that their message is they want to address this problem by cutting programs for poor people and for sick grand mothers they can do that. >> i don't know of any reasonable democrat who doesn't say there needs be work done on entitlement reform. without a doubt. you hear it from everybody. even the president agrees we have to cut spending. so it's n
that kproit duce a larger economy in the long run. when we couple that with the fact both sides feel they have a mandate on taxes is there a benefit to going over the cliff and figuring out from the bottom? >> from the democratic point of view this is really simple. if you look at the economics and you look at the politics of this, there's one simple inescapable fact which is for millionaires and billionaires taxes will go up. the president ran on this. the country is with him on this....
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that is a big headwind for this economy. all of this uncertainty throughout the second half of this year, all of 2012 will be replaced with certainty and that should unleash pent-up demand when we see it in the construction, in capital spending, housing improving, certainty replacing uncertainty will be a big theme in 2013. tracy: that is all it is going to take? talking about spain, 2013 is setting itself up to be the year of uncertainty. i think it is the year of the snake in china. >> looks, europe has been with us for three years and at the margin it continues to get a little bit better. with the new government in china, a case can be made for a pickup in growth a little bit more stimulus. so these things have been with us, but the pictures a little bit more clear than where it was. we think 13 can be a good year economically coming off of two sluggish years. ashleytracy: we said 16 tradings left, where she be putting my money in preparation for all this? >> first of all if we get a significant selloff, though sidelines
that is a big headwind for this economy. all of this uncertainty throughout the second half of this year, all of 2012 will be replaced with certainty and that should unleash pent-up demand when we see it in the construction, in capital spending, housing improving, certainty replacing uncertainty will be a big theme in 2013. tracy: that is all it is going to take? talking about spain, 2013 is setting itself up to be the year of uncertainty. i think it is the year of the snake in china. >>...
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he's argued this based on economis economists. it's not nonsense, an illness. >> first of all, going back to my core argument, the idea if you're grg toç take $89 billioa year and reduce the deficit, it's laughable in its face. the president is calling for more spending with his new stimulus. number two. point number two, the democrats have shown nothing by way of spending cuts. julian talks about there's $1.6 trillion. only in washington, d.c. can you say we're winding down the war but we're going to count that as savings. baseline spending doesn't make any sense. the president of the united states -- >> if we -- >> julian, hang on one second. the president of the united states should call the congressional leadership up to camp david, go up there and they should get in a room and they should sit there until they hammer out a deal. >> i agree with that. >> julian, go ahead. >> there are three big points the viewers need to understand and they need to take note that ron did not respond to. first, on the economists. the economist
he's argued this based on economis economists. it's not nonsense, an illness. >> first of all, going back to my core argument, the idea if you're grg toç take $89 billioa year and reduce the deficit, it's laughable in its face. the president is calling for more spending with his new stimulus. number two. point number two, the democrats have shown nothing by way of spending cuts. julian talks about there's $1.6 trillion. only in washington, d.c. can you say we're winding down the war but...